tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post8148983474392196873..comments2023-09-11T02:30:21.736-07:00Comments on Just a Man with his Thoughts: Romney and MormonismThe Griperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-55341382730850535132008-07-03T08:45:00.000-07:002008-07-03T08:45:00.000-07:00only criminal trials need to have unanimous votes....only criminal trials need to have unanimous votes. <BR/><BR/>in the grand jury i was on we only needed to determine if the DA had enough evidence to hold the guys until he gathered more evidence to put them on trial. and that only requires a majority vote not an unanimous vote.<BR/><BR/>and the DA in this case did a hell of a job of leading us to believe he did have enough, that i'll admit. thatThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-44913534259441162642008-07-03T00:45:00.000-07:002008-07-03T00:45:00.000-07:00Jury votes have to be unanimous. What'd you do, h...Jury votes have to be unanimous. What'd you do, hang the jury?<BR/><BR/>The one I was on was about a girl who was driving a stolen car. Her brother was the actual thief. We had to let her go cause there was no proof that she knew the car was stolen. She claimed that she thought her brother got it in exchange for drugs.<BR/><BR/>Yes, exactly. I was just typing my intention of going to bed Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-47980720095120474472008-07-03T00:38:00.000-07:002008-07-03T00:38:00.000-07:00well, time to lie my head down to sleep. good nigh...well, time to lie my head down to sleep. good night.The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-90124107123240145412008-07-03T00:25:00.000-07:002008-07-03T00:25:00.000-07:00i served on a grand jury once. one to determine if...i served on a grand jury once. one to determine if there was enough evidence for the DA to hold some guys. i was in the minority vote on that one. lolThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-34320948919999906622008-07-03T00:12:00.000-07:002008-07-03T00:12:00.000-07:00Yeh, I know. When you point your finger at someon...Yeh, I know. When you point your finger at someone else, you are pointing 4 fingers back at yourself and then there is that cute little saying that we used to say as kids, "I know you are, but what am I?"<BR/><BR/>Have you ever served on a jury? It's an interesting experience.Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-7065250850434749822008-07-03T00:05:00.000-07:002008-07-03T00:05:00.000-07:00when that happens lista, think of an old adage i u...when that happens lista, think of an old adage i use. "what someone says of another says more about that person than it does about the one he was speaking of." then chalk it up to ideological ignorance on their part.<BR/><BR/>well, just found out my jury duty has been fulfilled for a year. i kinda like this new system they have now.The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-10665609257519704242008-07-02T23:11:00.000-07:002008-07-02T23:11:00.000-07:00I guess we're in agreement than, yet I have a grip...I guess we're in agreement than, yet I have a gripe as well. I dislike it when I'm being accused of prejudice and bias when in fact, there really is a valid political reason for my vote.Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-17511943938078648022008-07-02T21:36:00.000-07:002008-07-02T21:36:00.000-07:00you have proven my point. the issues themselves ar...you have proven my point. the issues themselves are all that is needed to know, not the religion, color, gender, even age. it is when those factors are the reason people vote for a certain candidate or don't vote for them that "gripes" me. <BR/><BR/>the only time i would even consider the idea of their use is when both candidates are in agreement on all the issues. and the only time i could see The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-74422933451459469822008-07-02T20:13:00.000-07:002008-07-02T20:13:00.000-07:00Yes, voting for someone just because he is black a...Yes, voting for someone just because he is black and for no other reason is silly and I wish so much that that wasn't occurring.<BR/><BR/>The atheists are the ones making all the noise and the Congress and Supreme Court are listening to them. I will vote for someone who cares about the freedom of speech of Christians in this country and against someone who does not. If the former is a strongly Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-2210421663246485582008-07-02T12:25:00.000-07:002008-07-02T12:25:00.000-07:00lista,"that religion "should not be a factor in ch...lista,<BR/>"that religion "should not be a factor in choosing a representative"."<BR/><BR/>that is exactly what i'm saying. but the key word there is "should" that is a perfect tense word meaning it will only be true in a perfect world. and that is what the Constitution says, that we should not allow a person's religion be a factor just like we should not allow race to be factor nor gender but The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-65916083437728654782008-07-02T08:46:00.000-07:002008-07-02T08:46:00.000-07:00I guess that I never did deny the fact that religi...I guess that I never did deny the fact that religion was a factor. I guess what you are trying to get me to respond to is your suggestion that religion "should not be a factor in choosing a representative".<BR/><BR/>Well, Ok, than maybe I should come right out and say that I'm not sure if I agree. When religion is under attack, we have to have a way to defend ourselves.<BR/><BR/>It was not the Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-90891371269441673792008-07-01T20:50:00.000-07:002008-07-01T20:50:00.000-07:00take a look at your last two comments lista, you a...take a look at your last two comments lista, you admit that romney's religion was a factor.<BR/><BR/>"Perhaps the reason why religion has become such an important issue in the nominations of presidential candidates is because religion and particularly Christianity has been so under attack lately"<BR/><BR/>"maybe Huckabee was hung up on Romney's religion and therefore considered him more of an The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-41470112860403676072008-07-01T19:36:00.000-07:002008-07-01T19:36:00.000-07:00Quite often politicians consider the affects of th...Quite often politicians consider the affects of their running in an election on the cause of the party. For example, if two conservative candidates run in an election (perhaps one on a third party ticket) against only one liberal, the liberal is likely to win because the conservative vote will be split. It is not uncommon at all for certain candidates to decide not to run for this very reason.<Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-42672213543269959742008-07-01T13:57:00.000-07:002008-07-01T13:57:00.000-07:00lista,"I blame Huckabee for this. If he just would...lista,<BR/>"I blame Huckabee for this. If he just would have dropped out instead of Romney, Romney may have actually had a chance."<BR/><BR/>you can't blame Huckabee for Romney's defeat. Huckabee had as much right as anyone to seek the office of the Presidency.<BR/><BR/>and to speculate what voters would have voted for if Huckabee had dropped out is just that, speculation. leave that to the libs The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-42741257352463938392008-07-01T10:25:00.000-07:002008-07-01T10:25:00.000-07:00Romney did not lose the primaries because of his r...Romney did not lose the primaries because of his religion. He lost it because Huckabee refused to drop out and allow Romney a chance. The conservative vote was split. I blame Huckabee for this. If he just would have dropped out instead of Romney, Romney may have actually had a chance.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps what I wrote on your other post is also worth repeating here.<BR/><BR/>"Perhaps the reason Listahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590249616509349170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-55477838369310678322007-08-28T01:57:00.000-07:002007-08-28T01:57:00.000-07:00he laughs, good one snake hunters. welcome to the ...he laughs, good one snake hunters. welcome to the site. hope you enjoyed reading my thoughts.The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-73406222305014010062007-08-27T21:24:00.000-07:002007-08-27T21:24:00.000-07:00In 1928, Al Smith d, ran against Herbert Hoover r,...In 1928, Al Smith d, ran against Herbert Hoover r, for the Oval Office.<BR/><BR/>As the ballots indicated a clear win<BR/> for Hoover, Al Smith turned to<BR/>an aide and quipped, "Send a wire to the Pope... UNPACK!" reb<BR/><BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-18032399557428429702007-07-08T13:16:00.000-07:002007-07-08T13:16:00.000-07:00unfortunately tho, religion can be and is a factor...unfortunately tho, religion can be and is a factor for many based on how they preceive that religion. <BR/><BR/>and in the eyes of a lot of people Mormonism is a cult not a religion. <BR/><BR/>and look at the accusations that was thrown at JFK, that if he was elected the Pope would be the de facto president.<BR/><BR/>and we have a situation today that i don't think any muslem could be elected andThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-68440050081547226552007-07-07T18:50:00.000-07:002007-07-07T18:50:00.000-07:00I was very surprised that both my parents, who are...I was very surprised that both my parents, who are very born again Christian conservatives like Romney.<BR/><BR/>Heck, my dad even has good things to say about Rudy Giuliani.<BR/><BR/>I'd hate to think that religion would be a deciding factor in anyone's decision.Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.com