tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post3092829368692563116..comments2023-09-11T02:30:21.736-07:00Comments on Just a Man with his Thoughts: Honor KillingThe Griperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-82596007619450006342008-05-11T18:56:00.000-07:002008-05-11T18:56:00.000-07:00he grins at dcat, don't get that blood pressure up...he grins at dcat, don't get that blood pressure up so high my lovely friend and you may just be around long enough to get your wish granted. lololThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-37009076009026322332008-05-11T17:02:00.000-07:002008-05-11T17:02:00.000-07:00It's honor killing right to MURDER in COLD BLOOD!!...It's honor killing right to MURDER in COLD BLOOD!!!<BR/><BR/>I want the guys penis on a skewer that killed those two girls! <BR/><BR/>I don't want to hear about a f-up culture! I DON'T CARE about it! They need to be deported off this planet while I am here!dcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04363324417913254868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-65086715167775826922008-05-10T18:56:00.000-07:002008-05-10T18:56:00.000-07:00ellen,"in some cultures, it is believed a family's...ellen,<BR/>"in some cultures, it is believed a family's honor resides in its females"<BR/><BR/>this statement needs further explanation. in what cultures? and how do you mean "resides"?<BR/><BR/>honor as far as i understand was a possession not something within a person.<BR/><BR/>to say it resides in the female would, in essense, make the female of the species more valued than the male.<BR/><BR/>The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-84067820007712228442008-05-10T18:37:00.000-07:002008-05-10T18:37:00.000-07:00"secular history, with which I am least minimally ..."secular history, with which I am least minimally familiar' dovetails with theological interpetation of the same."<BR/><BR/>a lot of this dovetailing has to do with the leader of these societies. monarchy was the norm not the exception, bb. thus as the monarch believed so were the laws of that society. a good example of this would be Constantine who was purported to have converted to ChristianityThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-53938338269803979212008-05-10T14:51:00.000-07:002008-05-10T14:51:00.000-07:00Griper,Thanks for the link. Although'hermaneutics'...Griper,<BR/>Thanks for the link. Although<BR/>'hermaneutics', 'exegises' and <BR/>'epistimology' are beyond my ken, it was an enlightening paper. The author, Susanne Scholz, is a professor at Merrimack College, a tidy Augustinian catholic school;<BR/>she writes (http://muse.jhu.edu/demo/journal_of_feminist_studies_in_religion/v021/21.1scholz.html) from a narrow, but robust, religious philosophy, BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-72860904599925607882008-05-10T14:34:00.000-07:002008-05-10T14:34:00.000-07:00Dishonor killings are usually directed toward wome...Dishonor killings are usually directed toward women because, in some cultures, it is believed a family's honor resides in its females. That is why, even in cases as extreme as rape, in such cultures the perpetrator walks free while the rape victim is either killed or forced to live in prison in protective custody.<BR/><BR/>Ellen R. Sheeley, Author<BR/>"Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-67674432057557914632008-05-10T12:53:00.000-07:002008-05-10T12:53:00.000-07:00http://www.ars-rhetorica.net/Queen/VolumeSpecialIs...http://www.ars-rhetorica.net/Queen/VolumeSpecialIssue5/Articles/Scholz.pdfThe Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-14225606013225581442008-05-10T12:52:00.000-07:002008-05-10T12:52:00.000-07:00bb,"So, we observe, ponder and wonder...."with a g...bb,<BR/>"So, we observe, ponder and wonder...."<BR/><BR/>with a grin he says "yes, so we do, so we do"<BR/><BR/>here is a interesting link addressing the laws of old testament along with eastern laws and islamic laws dealing with the topic of sexual behavior and penalties.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ars-rhetorica.net/Queen/VolumeSpecialIssue5/Articles/Scholz.pdf" REL="nofollow"></A>The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-83510731055869104912008-05-10T08:29:00.000-07:002008-05-10T08:29:00.000-07:00"throughout history it was the man who was to defe..."throughout history it was the man who was to defend his honor.."<BR/>There is a school of thought among<BR/>biologists, etc, that among our earlier ancestors (as well as parts of the animal kingdom) the nature of sex and birth resuls in the 'mother' being obvious: the question of the 'father', less so.<BR/>Eg. 'fatherhood' is somewhat questionable among a promiscuous<BR/>society (or species). BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-25733565746604857462008-05-09T19:52:00.000-07:002008-05-09T19:52:00.000-07:00true, as honor is taken rightly or wrongly,more li...true, as honor is taken rightly or wrongly,more lightly also in this day and age. but it also seems as if throughout history it was the man who was to defend his honor or to do what was necessary to gain it back.The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19510439.post-1674867155928605792008-05-09T18:48:00.000-07:002008-05-09T18:48:00.000-07:00Seems odd that 'honor' killings are directed towar...Seems odd that 'honor' killings are directed towards women. Seems it would be more 'honorable' that<BR/>males involved be subject to the same punishment. 'Guilt' of both parties was established early:<BR/>"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lv 20:10)" Seems in this day and age when every other congressman is doing theBB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.com